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Dave_A
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 Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: AGUILA, VIVA, & CARICIA gone in November. |
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Caliente will be the only Hispanic channel remaining according to Mr. Zellner himself.
 is all I can say. |
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CTGuy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Aguila, VIva, Caricia gone in November? |
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| Dave_A wrote: | Caliente will be the only Hispanic channel remaining according to Mr. Zellner himself.
is call I can say. |
Hispanics must not be generating subscription numbers that make them worth programming for, at least to Mel's bean counters. I'm not Hispanic, but I'll miss Aguila -- Mexican music is a nice change of pace.
If your info from Zellner is correct, I wonder what the FCC will think of this cutback in programming for the Hispanic communities of the U.S. Could it possibly order SiriXM to reinstate the channels? Or, perhaps, is SiriXM counting on the FCC-mandated minority/special-interest handout channels -- which will supposedly be taking up 14 or 15 channels across both platforms -- to take care of the Hispanic musical genres that will disappear next month? |
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Dave_A
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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From the e-mails, this sounds like a Sirius decision, not himself. He understands the need of a channel like Aguila & Viva but I guess his influence isn't much of importance to Mel & Co. And according to Arbitron ratings Aguila had a much bigger audience than many English music channels.
I guess Sirius thinks that tropical is the only radio format listened by Spanish listeners which couldn't be farther from truth. Tropical music is basically an East (New York, Florida) coast success. |
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CTGuy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| Dave_A wrote: | From the e-mails, this sounds like a Sirius decision, not himself. He understand the need of a channel like Aguila & Viva but I guess his influence isn't much of importance to Mel & Co. And according to Arbitron ratings Aguila had a much bigger audience than many English music channels.
I guess Sirius thinks that tropical is the only radio format listened by Spanish listeners which couldn't be farther from truth. Tropical music is basically a East (New York, Florida) coast success. |
That makes sense, unfortunately. Mel is pure New York and knows that New York's tropical FM stations do very well. It's hard to believe, thought, that he and his people don't know that Mexican music does just as well in Western and Southwestern markets. Keeping Caliente and Aguila would keep both coasts happy; the fact that only one is going to survive tells me that SiriXM doesn't think much of its product's potential among Hispanics. |
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livingfruitvirus
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| Maybe they plan to use the space for minority interest music channels. At least I hope. I wouldn't mind specialty music channels programmed by minority companies. Specialty talk is another story, since they could just load them up with infomercials. |
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Dave_A
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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And to make things worse - they're implementing a Latin oldies show, and Mexican music show on Caliente. It's like adding a country show into a rock channel. Total opposites.
Talk about alienating listeners! |
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tdevine
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Hay Caramba!
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cptn-canada
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: |
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First Luna a few years back...and now the rest of the my listenable line up...
Given that I live in Toronto, there are NO local latin music radio outlets...XM, and by extension, Sirius provide me with my exposure to Latin music.
Screw you Mel...consume vast quantities of fecal mater and expire 
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dalej42
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| Well, I don't like the decision, but I'm glad Caliente made the cut. Perhaps after the merger and channel bloodbath, the future might bring back some of these formats. |
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bg_nashville
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| Dave_A wrote: | And to make things worse - they're implementing a Latin oldies show, and Mexican music show on Caliente. It's like adding a country show into a rock channel. Total opposites.
Talk about alienating listeners! |
They already alienated me by putting Reggaeton on Caliente- and I don't even speak Spanish 
I listen to Caliente on my drive to and from work during the winter months. |
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marker101
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I missed this information.
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rgarjr
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:27 am Post subject: |
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What kind of bullshit is this? Taking 3 Spanish stations down, 1 would be okay but 3?
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CTGuy
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| rgarjr wrote: | | What kind of bullshit is this? Taking 3 Spanish stations down, 1 would be okay but 3? |
The bean counters must have crunched the subscription numbers and found satellite radio interest among Hispanics too low to matter. And since all the people in important positions at Sirius are New York-oriented, the call on which Hispanic music channel to keep -- as a token channel, a sop to the FCC -- was Caliente, which plays the music that Sirius people hear on their car radios driving into New York City from Westchester or Long Island every day, while they're tuning around for stale dinosaur rock or financial news.
Hopefully, the FCC will approve broadcasting groups with programming that will fill this gap when it decides who gets the handout channels later this year. |
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Dave_A
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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If they only had room for 1 Hispanic channel, Viva or Universo Latino (although Viva is better programmed) should have made the cut. Why not Latin pop/rock & adult contemporary where the music covers a much broader spectrum of artists from Mexico, Spain, Cuba, and the rest of Latin America.
But I"m sure the Sirius side made this happened; XM clearly supported 4 Hispanic channels - they even launced a website last year:
www.xmradiolatino.com |
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Clinton984
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Happy that Caliente is sticking though. Really the only one i listened to.
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