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upnorth
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 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: NHL on XM???? |
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| Does anyone know if XM will be carring the 2005/06 NHL season?? |
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CTGuy
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:08 am Post subject: Re: NHL on XM???? |
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| upnorth wrote: | | Does anyone know if XM will be carring the 2005/06 NHL season?? |
Nope. Sirius holds those rights. Hopefully, if the new rules and new attitude lead to the return of excitement to the league, XM will open its checkbook and try to get the league when its deal with Sirius is up. I think that's after the 2006-07 season. |
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aomoridave
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:16 am Post subject: Re: NHL on XM???? |
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| CTGuy wrote: | | upnorth wrote: | | Does anyone know if XM will be carring the 2005/06 NHL season?? |
Nope. Sirius holds those rights. Hopefully, if the new rules and new attitude lead to the return of excitement to the league, XM will open its checkbook and try to get the league when its deal with Sirius is up. I think that's after the 2006-07 season. |
Sports is the main reason I have Sirius, and that's the biggest advantage they have over XM. Who knows, they may get the NHL for a good price, depending on how the league is doing in a couple years.
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upnorth
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| thanks. kinda figured that, just looking for confirmation. Not interested in the other guys at all! |
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ColumbusPest
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Does the doggie really have the advantage in sports? I think thats at least debateable (sp?). The NFL is only 17 weeks, most playoff games are on ESPNRadio and can therefore be heard on XM, IIRC. Who cares about the NBA & NHL on the radio. What other sports do they have? NASCAR in 2007, but again, weekly, and are there people who listen to cars drive in circles on the radio? On the other hand, who in the world listens to golf on the radio?
XM has baseball, which is just HUGE. Football may be more popular overall, but baseball is much more listened to on the radio just due to the fact that they play every night 6-months out of the year.
XM also has Big10 & Pac10 football & basketball, I don't know what college sports the doggie has, so if someone call fill that in, but it seems to me that you could at least make a decent argument that XM's sports programming is at least quality over quantity if nothing else.
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CTGuy
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| ColumbusPest wrote: | | Does the doggie really have the advantage in sports? I think thats at least debateable (sp?). The NFL is only 17 weeks, most playoff games are on ESPNRadio and can therefore be heard on XM, IIRC. |
No. Sirius' NFL deal locks out XM completely, just as XM's MLB deal does to Sirius. ESPN Radio provides filler programming (talk) to XM while the games are on.
| ColumbusPest wrote: | | Who cares about the NBA & NHL on the radio. |
Fans of teams in those leagues. Not as big a fan base as football and baseball, but fans that XM can't reach, although the Sirius NBA deal is non-exclusive, which means XM can offer weekly ESPN games and selected playoff games.
| ColumbusPest wrote: | | XM also has Big10 & Pac10 football & basketball, I don't know what college sports the doggie has, so if someone call fill that in, but it seems to me that you could at least make a decent argument that XM's sports programming is at least quality over quantity if nothing else. |
XM has ACC, Big 10 and Pac 10, but Sirius found a loophole in the Big 10 and Pac 10 deals and paid USC, UCLA, Ohio State and Michigan for exclusive rights to their broadcasts. When those schools play other conference schools, XM is forced to use the other team's feed. When they play each other, or Notre Dame, or a school from a conference with which XM has no deal, XM is shut out.
Sirius has no complete major conferences. Instead, it has pursued the strategy of signing individual schools to exclusive contracts. It has more than half of the Big East, for example, and all but a couple of schools in the SEC in its pocket.
My main sports interests are baseball, the NFL, the NHL and Syracuse University sports. Sirius has three of those four locked up. Fortunately for XM, the only "must-listen" sport of those, for me, is baseball. That, and XM's superior music, keep me in the XM camp.
That said, I may find myself switching in the future if an interoperable receiver comes out; that would allow me to subscribe to XM from April through October and Sirius from November through May if I wanted to without having to invest in two pieces of equipment. That's not what either company wants to happen, though, so I guess I'm an XMer for the foreseeable future. |
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MarXM
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| ColumbusPest wrote: | On the other hand, who in the world listens to golf on the radio?
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Am I the only one that enjoys the golf channel 146? They have interesting guests and analysis and really do a nice job covering the tour. |
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aomoridave
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| CTGuy wrote: |
XM has ACC, Big 10 and Pac 10, but Sirius found a loophole in the Big 10 and Pac 10 deals and paid USC, UCLA, Ohio State and Michigan for exclusive rights to their broadcasts. When those schools play other conference schools, XM is forced to use the other team's feed. When they play each other, or Notre Dame, or a school from a conference with which XM has no deal, XM is shut out.
Sirius has no complete major conferences. Instead, it has pursued the strategy of signing individual schools to exclusive contracts. It has more than half of the Big East, for example, and all but a couple of schools in the SEC in its pocket.
My main sports interests are baseball, the NFL, the NHL and Syracuse University sports. Sirius has three of those four locked up. Fortunately for XM, the only "must-listen" sport of those, for me, is baseball. That, and XM's superior music, keep me in the XM camp.
That said, I may find myself switching in the future if an interoperable receiver comes out; that would allow me to subscribe to XM from April through October and Sirius from November through May if I wanted to without having to invest in two pieces of equipment. That's not what either company wants to happen, though, so I guess I'm an XMer for the foreseeable future. |
Another reason why Sirius can do that is their deal with College Sports Television. I do believe Sirius has the sports edge over XM. However, XM landing MLB, I believe, made a bigger splash than Sirius getting the NFL. Baseball is a much better "radio sport" than the others, but I do like listening to football.
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schoolymd
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:40 am Post subject: sports on sirius |
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| As a dual subscriber- I would still say that XM is my preferred sports provider. Play by play is nice, but not having the other choices for sportstalk is a pretty big strike against sirius. I am not in the car enough to take advantage of or to care about play by play. And I do much prefer NFL to MLB. The NFL network is OK, but ESPN can be had in almost any midsized market in the US on the AM dial. Sports Byline sounds like its done in somebodys basement. Sportingnews and fox sports are such nice alternatives to have on XM. Frankly, if I had to choose between the sports offerings of the two, I would go with XM, because of the lack of alternative sportstalk on sirius- something that you can listen to 24x7, not just in the evening or weekend, when I'm not in the car anyway... |
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| MarXM wrote: | | ColumbusPest wrote: | On the other hand, who in the world listens to golf on the radio?
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Am I the only one that enjoys the golf channel 146? They have interesting guests and analysis and really do a nice job covering the tour. |
yes..they shut out sporting news radio for some lame golf..I HATE GOLF! |
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MarXM
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| johnnyfever78 wrote: | | MarXM wrote: | | ColumbusPest wrote: | On the other hand, who in the world listens to golf on the radio?
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Am I the only one that enjoys the golf channel 146? They have interesting guests and analysis and really do a nice job covering the tour. |
yes..they shut out sporting news radio for some lame golf..I HATE GOLF! |
What do you mean, only when the PGA Tour is on the air, Sporting News Radio isn't? |
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johnnyfever78
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| MarXM wrote: | | johnnyfever78 wrote: | | MarXM wrote: | | ColumbusPest wrote: | On the other hand, who in the world listens to golf on the radio?
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Am I the only one that enjoys the golf channel 146? They have interesting guests and analysis and really do a nice job covering the tour. |
yes..they shut out sporting news radio for some lame golf..I HATE GOLF! |
What do you mean, only when the PGA Tour is on the air, Sporting News Radio isn't? |
on the weekends no snradio...only late nights..and espn and fox sports do not have the nfl coverage like sporting news does!! this kills football season. i have to listen to am radio to get sporting news weekend daytime  |
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jphillips
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NHL and sirius is not an exclusive deal and they dont broadcast every game. Plus they pre-empt 15 channels a day for sports.
Here is the press release from the sirius web site.
NEW YORK - October 2, 2003 - SIRIUS (NASDAQ: SIRI), known for delivering the very best in commercial-free music and premium broadcast entertainment to cars and homes across the country, announced today it will air up to 40 National Hockey League games each week throughout the NHL season, beginning Oct. 8 and continuing through the Stanley Cup Finals. The broadcasts will be available to all SIRIUS subscribers at no additional cost. SIRIUS also has signed on as an official corporate marketing partner of the League.
The NHL and SIRIUS will produce a live, daily, two-hour call-in talk show originating from the SIRIUS studios in Rockefeller Center in New York City. NHL Live! will feature NHL players, coaches and celebrity hockey fans, expert commentary and fan participation. The show debuts Monday, Oct. 6 from 2-4 pm ET (with a replay at 4 pm ET), and will air on SIRIUS Sports Play-By-Play, stream 124.
"This partnership between the NHL and SIRIUS continues our commitment to delivering world class sports to our subscribers," said Joseph P. Clayton, President and CEO of SIRIUS. "I'm thrilled that hockey fans will be able to follow their favorite team no matter where they are in the continental U.S. This is a real power play for SIRIUS."
NHL Executive VP and COO Jon Litner said, "NHL fans are the most tech-savvy in all of sports, and our new marketing partnership with SIRIUS will not only allow our fans to follow NHL action across the League through satellite radio but also provide the NHL with another vehicle to grow the game of hockey."
The play-by-play hockey broadcasts will be carried live across a variety of SIRIUS streams including 124, 125 and 126. A complete schedule of games will be available at www.nhl.com and www.sirius.com.
As "The Official Satellite Radio Sponsor of the NHL," SIRIUS can include the NHL shield and related trademarks in its advertising and promotions, and will be featured in a number of NHL publications and marketing materials, and at NHL events. |
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CTGuy
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| Quote: | | As "The Official Satellite Radio Sponsor of the NHL," SIRIUS can include the NHL shield and related trademarks in its advertising and promotions, and will be featured in a number of NHL publications and marketing materials, and at NHL events. |
So the deal might just as well be exclusive. What's the NHL worth to XM if it can't advertise that it carries the league, and the NHL promotes only the competition at its games and in its programs?
If I recall correctly, Sirius' deal with the NFL is non-exclusive, too. XM could pay a hundred million or so and get the games, but it wouldn't be able to bill them as "NFL" games. And the NFL would never allow a mention of XM inside its stadiums or in its programs. Who in their right mind would pay that kind of money for the rights to air "big time football" or "exciting professional football" games provided by a "partner" who's being paid off by the competition to pretend you don't exist? |
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beeman65
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm an NHL fan, but I'm usually in my car during the day or at nights after the games are over anyway, so I can catch them on TV. Worse comes to worse, I can stomach FM to listen to the Penguin games for a few minutes. |
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