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CafeSSJ
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Listen. We won. Yanks were the best team this season. Phils were certainly the best team in the NL (sorry Cards, Dodgers)
We always want to win. Who doesn't? Yanks are held to a higher level of expectation than other teams in the league. And in all sports.
We should be gracious winners. They should be gracious losers. As should fans of the other 28 teams.
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CafeSSJ
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yanks win. Market goes crazy.
Yes ... they are related. Investors are crazy.
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man from space
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| There are no guarantees that the highest paid players will propel a team to be champions w/o some kind of chemistry among all the players. Girardi had a lot to do with it, and Teixeira was a lynch pin imo. Team guys, so to speak. The Yanks had that mojo this year and the focus made for some pretty good baseball. |
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WeWantTheAirwaves
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Kentucky Bomber wrote: | | WeWantTheAirwaves wrote: | 1 new stadium
1 new championship
1 get fucked |
Take your own advice, with your friend Mr Hand. The best you can manage.
Maybe baseball needs a salary cap, so that other teams can win the World Series just like your Chargers have won the Super Bowl, just like the Browns, the Lions, the Knicks, the Clippers.... The Marlins have 2 championships since the Dolphins last saw anything. The Indians have 2 pennants, Tigers have 3 pennants in the Super Bowl era, the Lions and Browns zip.
Doesn't seem to bother you that your Angels (where'd the avatar go?) win the AL West year after year. Is Moreno going to stop his spending?
The Yankees return their investments to their players, the other owners put it in their pockets: why do you think baseball owners won't open their books? If their fans knew how little they returned tothier businesses they'd never come out. better to whine in the papers about how the Yankees buy everything.
Bottom line, eat your hearts out. 26 in the old house, 1 and counting in the new. |
Sir, the Angels avatar is gone because I change my avatar often anyway.
Also, I feel your pain over senseless Yankees bashing since I can't watch or listen to a Los Angeles' sports team road game without hearing that stupid "Beat L.A." nonsense. |
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WeWantTheAirwaves
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, I don't have a problem with the Yankees organization. It's their fans I don't like. I would love the Yankees if they had no fans. |
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man from space
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I rooted for the Angels against NY. It was painful to watch how they lost. |
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WeWantTheAirwaves
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| man from space wrote: | | I rooted for the Angels against NY. It was painful to watch how they lost. |
Yeah, Angels have a problem crossing that chasm between winning a division and getting to the world series.
And it's not like their pitching will improve next year - the best available free agent is already on the team and probably gone. |
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Kentucky Bomber
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Now that we've finished discussing the Angels...Rivera's performance this post season becomes even more amazing considering he pitched (and pitched, and pitched) with a pretty painful rib injury sustained sometime late in the ALCS or early WS (no tow stories match so far). At one point I remember seeing him in the bullpen in a heavy jacket holding someting to his side, and the comment on air was that he looked cold, not surprising since it was a chilly night. We find out now it was a heating pad, trying to alleviate the soreness in the ribcage. He was pretty gassed in game 6, and who knows what would have happened if Victorino had dunked one over the infield with Utley and Howard to follow.
Five more years? If Mo said he would pitch till he was 70 I'd tend to believe him.
Oh, and thank you Damaso Marte, for 3 insane weeks. Remember when it was debated if he should even be on the post season roster? I can't think of anybody else missing virtually a whole season, except for some brutal outings, then suddenly showing up and doing precisely the job he was acquired to do in the playoffs.
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TJ
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| Kentucky Bomber wrote: | | Oh, and thank you Damaso Marte, for 3 insane weeks. Remember when it was debated if he should even be on the post season roster? I can't think of anybody else missing virtually a whole season, except for some brutal outings, then suddenly showing up and doing precisely the job he was acquired to do in the playoffs. |
Reminded me of Lloyd in '96. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Things will be a-changin'...
| NY Times wrote: | Yanks’ Cashman Won’t Be Swayed
By David Waldstein
CHICAGO – Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman made it clear Monday that even if Hideki Matsui and Johnny Damon had gone 20 for 20 in the World Series with 10 home runs apiece, it would not change the team’s thinking about how it would deal with the two impending free agents.
The World Series, and even the entire postseason, is a small sample, Cashman said Monday, and he will not be fooled into making a rash judgment based upon it.
“Over the last few years we’ve tried to improve the way we’ve gone about our decision making, and a part of that is sample size,” said Cashman, in Chicago for the general managers meetings. “I think you look at the broader perspective of what somebody’s abilities are. Jerry Hairston, for instance, is a free agent. If he had hit .700 in the World Series doesn’t necessarily mean that he would get an A-Rod contract. We’re thankful for the guys who did what they did, and if you had a great postseason, terrific.
“What they are when they went into October, that’s what they still are, regardless of how good or how poor they played in the postseason.”
At the same time, Cashman also praised Matsui’s overall body of work.
“He’s one of the game’s great R.B.I. guys,” he said. “There’s probably not too many people you’d pick to be at the plate with the game on the line ahead of him. When he’s healthy, he can perform, and thankfully for us it culminated in a world championship. He stayed healthy all year long, and it carried into the postseason.”
Matsui, who was the World Series most valuable player, is 35 and has surgically repaired knees that preclude him, the Yankees have said, from playing left field.
“As far as we’re concerned, he’s a D.H.,” Cashman said. “We don’t see outfield in the future for us.”
Those two statements by Cashman, about the danger of small sample sizes and about how the Yankees would not play Matsui in left field, demonstrate how remote a possibility it is of his returning to the Yankees. Cashman, however, is also establishing parameters for negotiations.
By ruling out the importance of the World Series in evaluating a player, he has taken away the agent Arn Tellem’s best argument for re-signing Matsui. Also, by declaring that he does not envision Matsui in the outfield, he undercuts his prospects elsewhere.
Matsui wants to come back to the Yankees, but he also wants to play the outfield. But that is going to be a difficult sell for a lot of teams because he has not been able to prove that he can do it. And when the team that knows him the best says publicly that he cannot do it, that may scare off other general managers.
Perhaps the only way for Matsui to return is if he does not get attractive offers from other teams, then agrees to come back to the Yankees on a one-year deal for relatively little money. The same could be said for Damon.
“We’ll have our talks with the players and the agents and see if our interests and their interests kind of match up,” Cashman said. “If they are somewhat close, and normally at the beginning they aren’t, but if they are at some point, then we’ll be in a position to go forward together. And if they are not, then we’ll look at alternatives.”
In general terms, Cashman said he did not expect to do much of anything at these meetings because he had not had enough time to formulate a strategy for the off-season. Having been in charge of a team that was still playing baseball less than a week ago, Cashman arrived at the meetings as an information gatherer instead of a bold actor.
The Yankees have not even had their organizational meetings with their professional scouts yet. Those meetings will come after these meetings.
“I’d rather do it that way than treat it like a fast-food situation and get indigestion,” he said.
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CafeSSJ
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Tex and Jeter win Gold Gloves.
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jtdude0
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Naturally people are going to vote for Jeter over Elvis Andrus, but why do I even bother debating GGs anymore... |
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Mr. Furious
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| jtdude0 wrote: | | Naturally people are going to vote for Jeter over Elvis Andrus, but why do I even bother debating GGs anymore... |
There's no point arguing. The Gold Gloves are a joke, and always have been.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Papers say that GM's in Chicago meeting are pretty convinced that Matsui has no future as an outfielder, so his FA hopes are shrunken to the AL, and only those that want a full-time DH, or a guy who plays >20 games in the OF. Seattle just signed Griffey, so the field shrinks even more.
Post reports that Detroit (which was hailed in SI just weeks ago as the franchise of the fans for building the club up in a depressed city) is on the verge of a mini fire sale, with Curtis Granderson as lead bait. They're stuck with some other big contracts (like Ordonez) that nobody wants, and so they'll dump the few that they can. But Curtis, despite being a very solid citizen and hitting 30+ HR in a big park, hit only .183 vs LHP this season. A big regression from the player he was thought to be. So NYY interest will be tempered, especially if the Tigers want anything substantial in trade.
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Mr. Furious
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Let the nonsense begin.
The Yankees are now "rumored" to be in on Roy Halladay. Now, I love Halladay, but my guess is that it would take at least Jesus Montero and either Hughes or Chamberlain, and maybe even A-Jax (though more likely somebody on the B-list) as the cherry on top. That, IMO, is too high a price to pay for a guy who's going to cost approximately eleventy billion dollars once his contract runs out.
And I want no part of John Lackey. He just strikes me as a disaster waiting to happen. If they do sign him, and he ends up being a world beater, feel free to quote this post and I'll happily admit that I was wrong, but I don't see that happening. FWIW, I was against signing Burnett, and thus you see why I'm not working in a Major League front office right now. 
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